Good that you said Jesus comes first. Now take the next step and realize that your vote has consequences. Voting for the enablers of abortion, voting for the enslavers of blacks is wrong if you truly believe. Therefore you need to look at yourself and decide what you do believe. You seem to have a problem with Romney as a Mormon. Let me ask you, would you rather have a Mormon or an atheist or maybe Moslem as president? And I am no fan of Romney either,, he is a poor choice but so much better than what he have now.

You speak of voting liberal on economic matters as if that vote is entirely separate and distinct from a vote for a supporter of abortion. The problem with your idea is that one goes with the other. A vote for a Democrat is a vote for abortion. For example, Bart Stupak, who went against everything he had promised his constituents and voted for the abortion rich health care bill. It cost him his career and his so-called principles but he did it without a second thought because his masters needed his vote.

You can't have it both ways, either you support the new holocaust and vote Democrat or you vote your beliefs and vote for the mostly anti-abortion party. You can't weasel your way into Heaven. Realize that we are in a struggle to the death, either theirs or ours will the forces of evil personified by the Democrat party. They are not nice, good, decent or anything else. If you vote for them then you are like them.

Don't be pedantic, you know full well that the Bible has nothing in it that states that voting Democrat is a sin. You're just showing your true colors by even saying that. God recognizes that we are all imperfect and imperfectable. But there are things we do, choices we make that are very good indicators of just how we believe. For instance voting for a candidate or party that actively promotes abortion. If you vote Democrat, you are comitting a sin because of their very pro-abortion platform.

We are all sinners but there are easy sins to avoid. Murder is one, voting Democrat is another. You seem to have a hard on about Romney because he is a Mormon. Would you not agree that he is a better man than Obama? He is far from perfect but I will vote with a clean conscience for him.

In short, if you vote Democrat, either you cannot be a Christian or you are sinning against God.

Look, you are just arguing for the sake of arguement here. Your whole premise is invalid because you refuse to realize that voting is a personal deed. It is an action in which you show your willingness to abide by God's word. If you vote for a Democrat you show that your faith has no meaning to you. You can talk faith all you want but when you have a chance to live that faith by voting anti-Democrat you have shown your true colors. In short it is impossible to vote for Democrats and really believe in God.

I'm not sure what happened but my forst reply was eaten so I'll try again. I am sorry that I replied in anger and said some things that I shouldn't have. Thank you for your apology and I accept it. You are a better man than many on here.

Thank you for the apology and it is accepted. Speaking for myself, being called that is the worst thing you can say and the most untrue. I'm sorry about the disgusting and voted for the current system.

You can go to hell for calling me an anti-Semite. I am the biggest supporter of Israel there is, I am more loyal to Israel than this country because of our current leadership. In fact you are the anti-Semite for equating bankers with Jews. Until you started this discussion had been clean and on the issues. But you had to ruin it didn't you. Just because I don't subscribe to the blame everyone but the banks you accuse me of that? You ought to be ashamed and really should be banned.

I understand that you won't change your mind, you are too inflexible and unthinking for that but try and understand my points. If you are fine with the too big to fail system, then say so. Be honest about it and tell us that you think banks ought to be protected from their greed when they screw up. I had hoped that you would be sart enough to realize that not everyone voted like you for the current system of socialized losses and private gains. I damn sure didn't vote for it, so unlike you, I don't need to look in the mirror. You are disgusting,

You haven't gotten my point at all. The banks involved in all this are not free market capitalist institutions. They have grown accustomed to a kind of perverted capitalism in which profits are theirs and losses are governments' responsibility to cover. This is wrong. Blaming the private sector citizens in these countries is a dead end because they in many cases are innocent. But think about the bankers in all of these events over the last few years, what consequences have they faced? Who has gone to jail, who has even lost his job, who has lost his fortune? Better question is who has been publicly humiliated for getting everything wrong? In a fair world Ben Bernake would be laughed off the stage everytime he spoke. These so-called masters of the universe have been exposed as corrupt, venal and in many case not very bright. Yet people like you continue to give them the benefit of the doubt and want to destroy whole countries so that these vampires will contiue to get their bonuses.

No the evil bankers kept loaning Greece money well past the point that they had the capacity to pay. So yeah, the bankers were evil and foolish. But they don't want to face any consequences for their screw ups.

Banks fought any haircuta for a long time and still won't take enough of a haircut to make it possible for Greece to survive. You forget that the ECB has taken a lot of Greek debt from the banks at 100% in repos. They hold the debt and if it is priced realistically the banks become insolvent. The true haircut would be over 90% and no one has agreed to that.

Greece has been told to give over their sovreignty to bankers, in fact the new Greek government as well as the new Italian government were appointed by the ECB and banks. What makes you think that they will do what is best for the people of those countries?